{"id":3097,"date":"2025-02-17T10:54:02","date_gmt":"2025-02-17T09:54:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/?p=3097"},"modified":"2025-04-18T17:09:57","modified_gmt":"2025-04-18T15:09:57","slug":"economistes-et-historiens-un-dialogue-de-sourds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/?p=3097","title":{"rendered":"Economistes et historiens: un dialogue de sourds?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I have an essay (in French) in<a href=\"https:\/\/www.odilejacob.fr\/catalogue\/sciences-humaines\/economie-et-finance\/economistes-et-historiens-un-dialogue-de-sourds-_9782415010164.php\"> this volume<\/a> edited by Alain Trannoy and Arundhati Virmani and published by Odile Jacob.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J&#8217;ai un chapitre en fran\u00e7ais dans <a href=\"https:\/\/www.odilejacob.fr\/catalogue\/sciences-humaines\/economie-et-finance\/economistes-et-historiens-un-dialogue-de-sourds-_9782415010164.php\">ce livre<\/a> sorti en janvier 2025.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Un petit extrait de mon chapitre:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Une vision assez courante des sciences sociales les repr\u00e9sente comme \u00e9tant en lutte \u00e9ternelle contre les s\u00e9ductions du r\u00e9cit. Le r\u00e9cit, c\u2019est l\u2019\u00e9loge de l\u2019histoire individuelle, anecdotique, suffisamment atypique pour \u00eatre remarqu\u00e9e &#8211; alors que les sciences sociales s\u2019int\u00e9ressent aux statistiques, \u00e0 l\u2019exp\u00e9rience g\u00e9n\u00e9rale d\u2019une population, aux r\u00e9alit\u00e9s agr\u00e9g\u00e9es o\u00f9 l\u2019individu se fond dans la masse. On entend m\u00eame parfois que notre attachement au r\u00e9cit rel\u00e8ve d\u2019une \u00ab&nbsp;addiction&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;: c\u2019est la th\u00e8se, par exemple, d\u2019un livre du philosophe Alex Rosenberg publi\u00e9 en 2018 par la MIT Press et intitul\u00e9&nbsp;<em>How History Gets Things Wrong&nbsp;: The Neuroscience of our Addiction to Stories<\/em>.<a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/27E40C96-3C58-4E68-B9EC-47046D550977#_ftn1\"><sup>[1]<\/sup><\/a>&nbsp;Rosenberg va tr\u00e8s loin dans sa d\u00e9nonciation : \u00ab&nbsp;Narrative history is always, always wrong. It&#8217;s not just incomplete or inaccurate but deeply wrong, as wrong as Ptolemaic astronomy&nbsp;\u00bb.&nbsp;Mais m\u00eame des chercheurs qui sont moins hostiles par principe aux r\u00e9cits ont tendance \u00e0 penser que l\u2019am\u00e9lioration des sciences sociales vient de l\u2019utilisation des m\u00e9thodes statistiques pour surmonter les biais inh\u00e9rents aux r\u00e9cits que chaque discipline a h\u00e9rit\u00e9 de son pass\u00e9. Ceci est le point de vue du livre publi\u00e9 en 2021 par le politologue Matt Grossman et intitul\u00e9&nbsp;:&nbsp;<em>How Social Science Got Better&nbsp;: Overcoming Bias with More Evidence, Diversity and Self-Reflection<\/em>.<a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/27E40C96-3C58-4E68-B9EC-47046D550977#_ftn2\"><sup>[2]<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Il est ind\u00e9niable que la place des statistiques est devenue bien plus centrale aux sciences sociales depuis quelques ann\u00e9es. Doit-on en conclure que la valeur du r\u00e9cit est devenue moindre, ou encore que le r\u00e9cit soit destin\u00e9 \u00e0 dispara\u00eetre d\u2019une conception des sciences sociales vraiment scientifique, dans le meilleur sens du terme\u00a0?Cet essai proposera une r\u00e9ponse n\u00e9gative \u00e0 la question. Le r\u00e9cit non seulement ne dispara\u00eetra pas. Il sera encore plus ancr\u00e9 dans la pratique des sciences sociales, m\u00eame les sciences sociales les plus quantitatives&#8230;.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/27E40C96-3C58-4E68-B9EC-47046D550977#_ftnref1\"><sup>[1]<\/sup><\/a>&nbsp;Rosenberg (2018).&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/27E40C96-3C58-4E68-B9EC-47046D550977#_ftnref2\"><sup>[2]<\/sup><\/a>&nbsp;Grossman (2021). Morgan (2021) montre que l\u2019utilisation du r\u00e9cit dans le travail des historiens \u00e9conomiques a parfois servi \u00e0 combler des lacunes dans leurs donn\u00e9es disponibles. Un point de vue fran\u00e7ais sur ces biais dans les travaux des historiens se trouve dans Hartog (2003, 2021), et notamment dans son analyse du \u00ab&nbsp;pr\u00e9sentisme&nbsp;\u00bb.&nbsp;&#8220;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have an essay (in French) in this volume edited by Alain Trannoy and Arundhati &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3098,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,53,50],"tags":[122,91,121,123,74,120,119],"class_list":["post-3097","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-books","category-francais","category-slider","tag-economists","tag-francais","tag-histoire","tag-historians","tag-history","tag-narrative","tag-recit"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3097","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3097"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3097\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3101,"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3097\/revisions\/3101"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/3098"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3097"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3097"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulseabright.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3097"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}